Fun in Fall & Winter? Where to Go and Why You Need To Plan it Now!

Fall Winter Travel Planning

[00:00:00] Narrator: Do you dream about your next trip? You're in the right place. On the Time to Talk Travel Podcast, we come to you weekly to share places to go and what to do when you get there. Let's dive into this week's adventure.

[00:00:16]Nasreen: Hi and welcome back for another episode of Time to Talk Travel. Today we're going to be talking about fall and winter travel, prepping , things you don't want to wait until the last minute on, some of our favorite spots to go or maybe some that didn't quite measure up.

I'm gonna jump right into why we're doing this one right now because you may be thinking it's August. I don't need to think about winter travel yet, or fall, or Halloween, or any of this. I'm just trying to get the kids back off to school and wade through everything right now.

[00:00:47]Nasreen: But The tricky part about fall and winter travel, at least from my perspective , is there are a lot of special experiences and things built into fall and winter travel. Maybe it's a spooky tour or, there's limited seatings at all these different Halloween events and things you want to do.

They're running special Christmas lightings, things that you want to get in on, but there are limited spots for them. And unfortunately, if you wait too long until you start hearing about them everywhere, you may have trouble getting in on them. It's one of the reasons to be proactive on this type of travel because otherwise you're watching everyone's videos and posts and you're like, Damn, I wish I had looked a little earlier on what's going on in my area.

[00:01:34] Desiree: I will say Nas, honestly, I sell travel retreats and plan them. I have one for December of 2024 that is not selling well. The response from everybody is. already booked through spring.

We're looking at 2025,

You might've already missed the boat on some of this stuff. You're probably going to need to be looking at places that are less popular for what you'd normally think.

When I think of fall travel, I think of fall leaves, popping up into Maine and Vermont and, even Asheville, North Carolina. A lot of the spots you want may already be taken. So

I don't know, Mo, do you have fall travels planned? Are you even able to look that far ahead?

[00:02:18] Maureen: I agree. I was discussing with my mom our plans for next summer, right? It's a big birthday and she really wants to go to Scotland. And so, we're starting to look at that. For big trips , I think you do plan out a little bit further. We're going to Nashville in November and I've never done Nashville, so I'm quite excited for that. We have our condo booked in Cancun in December, but the flights are atrocious. So, I'm waiting for the flights to come down. and a couple of the apps that I use to track flight prices that way say wait. So it's kind of a weird one. You're trying to be organized and get all your ducks in a row especially for holiday, Christmas travel. And yet I can't, I have to wait and see because they're basically a thousand dollars a flight from Houston to Cancun right now, and there's six of us.

[00:03:06] Desiree: Yeah, that's not normal. That's normally under

400.

[00:03:09] Maureen: If it's a thousand dollars, I would go to your Christmas market thing. You know what

I mean? It's hard sometimes to just kind of wait, but it's definitely going to be worth it.

[00:03:17]Nasreen: There's kind of this in between space, right? Obviously people are booking flights if they're doing a big trip, they're planning that in advance, but then you sit there and kind of lose sight of the fact that some of the stuff within driving distance of you to other people is a destination.

And maybe it's just where I've been living, but in New Hampshire, obviously a ton of tourists come in and do foliage stuff. So there are scenic railroad tours that do, you know, dinner or wine tasting on the train to see the leaves. You can't get a seat on one of those right now. Those booked, I mean, there were no seats available, especially in anything that had an observation perspective, because tourists came in and booked all of that early because they were planning that stuff early. In Texas, Lost Maples has foliage and it turns. Camping slots for that go so far in advance. Even getting into the park when you had to have a reservation, and I believe you still do have to have plans and be on their list to get in. That again is booked out significantly in advance. So there are these experiences that may be near you, that other people are planning ahead, and you're not necessarily.

That's, I think, the middle ground where I get caught in myself.

[00:04:31] Maureen: True. But there are so many things you can just locally do. I'm actually really enjoying the Facebook events that are popping up, local things here and there, and you say you're interested and then other friends see that you're interested. And then before you know it, you've got a crew who's going. There's the big, big trips and really popular things that you need to have on your calendar and book out. And then there's just the, Hey, what are you doing Friday? This looked like fun, you know? And I think it's sometimes good to, in your whole schedule for the next three months, keep some of those weekends where if you're up for it, you're up for it.

And if you're not, you want a down weekend, then you can do it too. Cause I'm, I'm finding right now I've booked every weekend. It's getting a little overwhelming to think, okay, When am I going to be home and when can I just relax and get caught up on the stuff you have to do at home?

[00:05:20] Desiree: Yeah. I did a quick Google search of the top places for October of 2024. And I'm curious if you guys would be able to guess the number one.

To visit in October of this year, and this is according to U. S. News,

U. S.

And the world.

[00:05:38]Nasreen: It's not for foliage, it's just in general.

[00:05:40] Desiree: just says the best place to visit in October 2024, this is the U.S. News and World Report rankings.

[00:05:47] Maureen: Germany. I don't know.

[00:05:49] Desiree: Sicily.

I think because White Lotus inspired so much, but it says at the start of the off season, hotel rates in this Italian paradise can drop to almost half of their peak prices.

[00:06:00]Nasreen: Mm hmm.

[00:06:00] Desiree: why it's a sexy place to go. And number two is Yellowstone National Park. And I'm trying to put together a trip for this, it's not super hot. Temps are like 40s and 50s, and it's less crowded than the peak summer months.

You won't have to fight for spots to see Old Faithful.

[00:06:17]Nasreen: They have snow during that time of year sometimes.

[00:06:21] Desiree: Yeah, they closed for the season in November, but a lot of the lodging options close sooner. So you do kind of have to worry about that, but it does say that it's the end of elk rutting season and you can hear other worldly bugling. Never heard it. So maybe that's the noise they make. I'll be able to tell you next year when I go. My Zion park trip is tomorrow, my 10 day birthday trip that I had planned before I was laid off that I'm still taking only because I got that one permit to the wave that only 2 percent of the people who apply ever get. So at least 2 percent online. And boy, are they scaring me with that.

I keep getting emails. You might die. Be prepared. Literally. It says people have died in the heat. People have been medevaced out. I finally just caved and paid for a tour guide. Because I thought they'll

[00:07:13] Maureen: thank you.

[00:07:14] Desiree: Yes, they'll keep me alive. I don't want to die on my birthday. I was like, just, man, do they scare you?

And I kept reading some reports that are like, Oh no, it's fine. You can figure it out. You got maps. They show you pictures because only about 26 people a day get to hike this. I mean, I think it's a six mile round trip. I can't even remember. I've got so many hikes planned over the next week, but they made it very, very clear that if you get lost, you probably will die.

And I can count on Des to get lost. There's no cell signal. There's just, look for the two mountains that have a ridge in the middle. What? You know, look, look for the bush off to the right, 10 steps. Okay, finally caved, paying for the guide. So I'm going to keep going down this list because I find it really interesting. Yellowstone's next and then it says Zion which is probably smart because it's probably not too hot. And then number four is the British Virgin Islands. And then five, Reykjavik, which I believe, because

then it's,

[00:08:10]Nasreen: seen that one on, on fall lists,

[00:08:13] Maureen: your favorite.

[00:08:13] Desiree: I want to go back to Iceland next February for a retreat trip. But everyone keeps telling me, no, do not do February. It's going to be your

[00:08:22] Maureen: Would you pick February?

[00:08:24] Desiree: I want to go to the ice caves. I want to go snowmobiling over the glaciers. And if you wait much later, those things might not still be there.

[00:08:32]Nasreen: Or you could just spend it all stuck in a snowstorm again.

[00:08:35] Desiree: Right. I said, all right, I'm not going to be that person. I'm going to plan it for April. I think April sounds safer. And then I'll do Yellowstone in May because everyone's telling me April and Yellowstone is still dicey.

[00:08:47]Nasreen: What I don't understand now that I'm thinking about it, is how, how If we're talking worldwide destinations in October, and I suppose if they put price into it or busyness, but how did Oktoberfest not make,

[00:08:58] Maureen: That's why I said Germany Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:09:01] Desiree: Munich. I will tell you, I will go back to Oktoberfest and Munich in a heartbeat. That was so much fun last year. I try to tell everyone I ever meet, cause they're like, I don't really want to deal with it. I'm like, it is the best party ever. And it is a reminder that the world can get along. We all come together from 8 million cultures and stay, stand up and sing on tables and drink beer together and love each other.

And it is amazing. If you just want a reminder that we can all get along no matter how different we are or where we're from or whatever, you just throw on a dirndl and your lederhosen, walk in there and you join 6, 000 friends in each tent and you, you sing John Denver songs I mean, it's insane!

[00:09:50] Maureen: I want to do that one day. I

go with you when

I like doing local ones, but I, be

[00:09:55] Desiree: If you ever want to go there, Mo, I would go back with you because I know you would embrace it. You,

[00:10:01] Maureen: I have, I have a full Oktoberfest outfit.

not, it's not genuine, but it does the trick and it's quite cute.

was all thought it would be an annual thing and then we only went once, so I'd be happy to break it out

[00:10:13] Desiree: I borrowed a friend's because they are like 250, 300 bucks for the authentic ones. And I'm like, I'm not sure I'm even going to like it. Oh, I loved it. But I still have hers. So I'm like, Hey, I need to connect with you to give you your dirndl back. Yeah. But yeah, we own the lederhosen though. I bought those used from a dude in Ukraine, found them on Etsy. So if anybody needs lederhosen, come see me.

[00:10:34] Maureen: There you go. No, that is a fun thing to put on the calendar. If you can't go all the way to Germany, there's lots of local ones that you can find. They really do get into the spirit in Texas. There's a lot of German history, so

Oh yeah,

[00:10:46]Nasreen: Fredericksburg in October. Yeah. Good

[00:10:49] Maureen: And that's again, October, anywhere that's hot, is still really nice.

It's what normal people's summer would be. It's not hotter than hell like it is right now. I just got back from Toronto and everyone was asking, when's the best time to come visit you in Texas?

And really fall and spring are the best times. January and February are gross. It's still fairly warm. Like it's not compared to Canada. Let's be honest. Put that preface but it's such an outdoorsy place where we are here. So you want to be able to be outside.

So if it's stinking hot or miserable and rainy, those are the two seasons you don't really want to visit. And there's lots of places in the world that that sort of qualifies for. Fall can be a great time. I think that's probably why Italy's on there too. Because it would still be nice, but not hot. The other thing to consider is the other side of the hemisphere. It's a different season, right? I have forgotten this in my travels in the past where I went to South America and it was warm in Miami when I left and fall, literally, when I landed in Uruguay.

I have quite the collection of jeans and sweaters from that trip because I packed completely wrong. It’s something to keep in mind when you're on the shoulder seasons of spring and fall.

[00:12:07] Desiree: I did Capri, their beach clubs were shut down, but I still swam in the Blue Grotto because the water had warmed up all year. My daughter still said it was cold, but it was much warmer than the Adriatic , in comparison. I think September, October are perfect for Europe.

[00:12:31] Maureen: And you don't have the crowds, like

[00:12:33] Desiree: yeah,

[00:12:33] Maureen: All the kids are back in school around the world, you've got a little bit less crowding in the popular places. If you really do want to see some of those tourist, iconic places, no matter where you're traveling to, it would be a better time.

[00:12:45] Desiree: I say the same thing about Panama city beach. When I lived down there, October, they called it Indian summer and it's nice. It's not too hot. It's definitely not crowded. And I hadn't even thought about it in so long, but yeah, that's a great one.

[00:12:59]Nasreen: Yeah, so for the people who may not be able to get overseas or have limited time and want to go domestically. I'm in New England, so there's a lot of places up here that are popular. You've got Burlington, Vermont, you know, huge. The kids go back. Getting a hotel is hard, but it's beautiful.

Upstate New York. You've got Portland, Maine. The whales migrate. It's great around October. You have not only leaves and beautiful vistas and pictures and great food, but you've got potential whale sightings. Stowe, Vermont is kind of the quintessential mountainy town area.

And then of course in New Hampshire, the Kangamangus Highway, which people just go all the way along at 20 miles an hour taking pictures of leaves and you don't go through there if you're from around here because you're going to be going slow. We know people drive slow during these seasons, but you've got all the things I like, right?

You got apple cider donuts. You got apple cider. You got, I mean, like I love apple cider donuts,

[00:13:55] Desiree: We have both here.

[00:13:56]Nasreen: yeah, I know they have them everywhere, but

[00:13:58] Desiree: No, but I'm saying I had never even, I went to an apple

[00:14:01] Maureen: I don't think I've ever had an apple cider

[00:14:03] Desiree: oh,

and Blue Ridge, they have them. They're yummy.

[00:14:06]Nasreen: I call it the trifecta in Stowe because you can go between the Stowe, Vermont area and Waterbury, Vermont. You've got the Cider Hollow apple place. You have cider doughnuts and apple cider there. And then you've got Cabot Cheese. Not the factory, which is actually in Cabot, Vermont, which is further, but there's a store with a tasting room and you can taste all the different cheeses and they have a bazillion more than you would ever see on a shelf in a grocery store.

They've got an everything bagel one, they've got a garlic and herb one, ones that you don't see in the stores normally. And then Ben Jerry's is right there too, and now there's actually a winery and a distillery, so now it's like a . Quintafecta? I don't know how to go about that.

But then there's even these fall things to do in cities you don't think of, like Greenville, South Carolina has a big food festival in the fall and it gets pretty out there. Asheville, I mean, Asheville's got Biltmore. And then Austin has Austin City Limits in October. It's a really popular time to go there because again, it's not

quite as miserable.

[00:15:06] Desiree: true. My cousin asked me to plan an itinerary for her for Austin, and I asked a friend and she said, what weekend? And I told her, she said, you know, that's Austin City Limits. So I said to my cousin, are you looking for a big festival thing? And she goes, no, no, let's go another.

So they're going to Toronto instead. They're doing Toronto in October instead.

[00:15:27] Maureen: are two very different places.

[00:15:28] Desiree: They, they are. They just said, we'll do Austin when it's not overrun,

[00:15:32] Maureen: What kind of festival is it?

[00:15:33] Desiree: a music festival. iT's two weekends straight.

[00:15:36]Nasreen: And it's not wild. My son went in a stroller when he was young, to some of it. Some of it's family friendly; he's just sitting in there chilling with his little headphones on, to get out of the extra noise. But Austin can be expensive to visit.

If you do pick a festival weekend, you want to make sure it's one that you really want to go to. So you're kind of all in on the cost and the additional expenses and crowds.

Other, fall things too, if we're going towards Halloween Salem Mass. is a huge Halloween destination because of the whole, you're a witch, you're a witch, you're a witch, burn them all thing that happened many years ago. Somewhere you've got to be careful if you want to

actually take a tour, actually do anything. They have some last minute availability, but it is wall to wall, people. If you can make it on a weekday and if you can book way in advance, much better.

[00:16:30] Maureen: Yeah. New Orleans is a fun one for creepy times too. With all the voodoo and the ghost tours. We usually go for Thanksgiving. It's a busy time to travel, but because a lot of people do family things, it's not nearly as crazy, I find, as different holidays.

We've got a couple of great restaurants we've done, Thanksgiving dinners at, and one being bourbon house, redfish. They do interesting Thanksgiving menus. So kind of fun to look at for fall as well.

[00:16:58]Nasreen: So I know Savannah is mentioned as a good Halloween destination as well. You've spent some time there, Des.

[00:17:05] Desiree: I have.

I went for St. Patrick's day, which is a whole lot of fun. That is a great place for St. Patrick's day. I have been on haunted tours in Savannah. I have not been there for actual Halloween, but I've done the haunted tours where there's one hotel in particular. People sleep in this hotel and they tell you on the tour, oh, by the way, it was the confederate hospital.

And underneath, when they renovated, they found all the bones of the people. When they'd hatch off their legs, they'd just throw them under. They say that one's super haunted. I don't know how much I buy into all that stuff, but you walk through the cool cemeteries and they tell you the stories about, ringing your bell

People who were buried alive. Remember, I think we've talked about this before, but essentially For a while, there were plagues and they thought people were dead. They buried them and it turned out they were alive. So they started burying people with a bell and a string in the coffin so that they could pull the string if they woke up and bells would ring. You could see some of those parts of the cemetery. It's cool. The cemeteries there are pretty awesome. And again, St. Patrick's day is amazing there.

[00:18:10]Nasreen: Yeah, it's funny because I was looking at some of the different Halloween towns and places and they have the small town list, right? So they have the one in Oregon where they filmed parts of Halloween town and you have to wonder like, which came first? Was it a very Halloweeny town? So they filmed there.

Did it become Halloweeny after the movie came out? And then like Keene, New Hampshire does this giant pumpkin lighting where they try and have the most Jack o lanterns at a time. Someplace in Minnesota is calling themselves the capital of Halloween.

Anoka, Anoka, like that. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. there's a lot more Halloween-y places than I thought. But even some of the giant displays of 80 bazillion jack o lanterns and things like that. I think the creepy places for Halloween are kind of fun. You know, those are the ones that are unique.

ha.

ha ha

[00:19:02] Desiree: This isn't creepy, but this is a lot of fun. If you're looking for adult fun, fantasy fest that happens down in Key West for two weeks in October. I think it's October 18th through the 27th this year. And it is an adult only fun fest. And when you think of Key West and think of the crazy wild side of Key West, not the beachy. pretty. I don't know if you guys know the reputation for Key West.

[00:19:29]Nasreen: Debauchery.

[00:19:30] Desiree: That's more like it. I remember doing the crawl down Duval, which is like a bar hop. But the point being Fantasy Fest, if it's another October, it's definitely not your family fun trip.

[00:19:42]Nasreen: Leave the kids home for that

[00:19:44] Desiree: if you're looking to go be an adult who just wants to let off some steam and get crazy, Key West is where you should go for October.

[00:19:50] Maureen: On aclassier note, in Fort Lauderdale the end of October, beginning of November is the Fort Lauderdale boat show, which, if you're at all into boats and yachting or like to dream big and see fabulous things, that's kind of a cool one too.

[00:20:04] Desiree: Yeah. And they throw some good parties with that too.

[00:20:07]Nasreen: So Independence, Kansas, let's have a fun guessing game. They have a small town and I've been to Independence, I know how big it is. They have a festival called Neewollah, Halloween spelled backwards.

[00:20:20] Desiree: Okay. Thank

[00:20:21]Nasreen: Okay. Now first of all, let's guess how many days long it is and how many visitors came.

[00:20:26] Desiree: I don't know.

Five, five and five.

[00:20:30]Nasreen: It's 9 and 75, 000.

Yep. Dozens of activities, parades, food festivals, carnivals, and more. It is the largest annual event in Kansas.

[00:20:41] Desiree: All righty, Kansas.

[00:20:43]Nasreen: Oh, oh, I forgot another one near us though. Fall River, you know, Lizzie Borden. So she gave her father 40 whacks and then she murdered her parents.

[00:20:53] Desiree: You know this story,

[00:20:54]Nasreen: Like an old ax murder.

[00:20:55] Desiree: could tell Mo's Canadian now. The Canadian

is coming out.

In America, we're raised with Lizzie Borden

who murdered her whole family, hacked them all up.

[00:21:04]Nasreen: Yep, in the little pieces. Anyways so the house is a, Bed and breakfast now,

and it's popular to book around Halloween.

Well, there, think of all the disturbing places. Okay. The conjuring house is in Rhode Island, they rent that out as an Airbnb. Very popular around Halloween.

Or

[00:21:21] Desiree: the place from The Shining. People love

staying there. Red Rum. Red Rum.

[00:21:26] Maureen: my gosh, no, thank you. I was more thinking of one of those beautiful sunflower fields or a pumpkin patch.

No, not creepy murder houses.

[00:21:38]Nasreen: No, that's my end of things too. Okay. So sunflowers, those are starting to come up in our area right now. They're blooming earlier and they'll last for a little bit, but I'm starting to see notices.

And then apple picking. The season has moved earlier for that as well.

If that's something you want to start looking in September for sure. I remember us going in October when I was younger, but it's definitely something you want to aim for in September now because some places are not picking into October.

Then you've got those early winter trips that I think have also become a little trickier too because of the mountains, and I feel like I'm giving my little spiel on global warming , But a lot of the places don't have snow as early as they used to. If you plan early season skiing, even the places releasing what their opening dates going to be, what their specials are going to be for the year, it's pushed back later and later editorially because they're not doing stuff until December, January, if you really want to make sure you have snow, January, February.

[00:22:38] Maureen: Yeah. And I would say look at getting your ski passes though now. Cause those will just go up and up. September, October, you should get, get those ski passes.

[00:22:46] Desiree: Colorado, Keystone, and I want to say Vailot They have Epic Pass is what it's called and you can get the annual

[00:22:52] Maureen: I'm going to try skiing this year.

I haven't skied since I broke my ankle or since I moved to Texas. So

[00:22:58] Desiree: Yeah, I don't love I went back to Canada once

[00:23:01] Maureen: And it was not, it was a little hill.

Nasreen: I haven't skied on a mountain ever and I grew up in New Hampshire and I've talked, I've talked to a couple of PR. My parents didn't. It's one of those things where if your parents didn't do it, how are you going to go? Right.

[00:23:15] Desiree: Oh, we need to change that. We

need to

[00:23:18]Nasreen: There have been multiple reps at different places.

Greg worked at a ski resort and we could ski for free!

[00:23:24] Desiree: Naz. Naz. Alright, this is it. I'm gonna start a Time to Talk Travel Trip where

[00:23:31] Maureen: You shouldn't have told us that

[00:23:33]Nasreen: This'll be the trip where I break

[00:23:35] Desiree: We all should go together. We all need to do it. Mo, where are you?

[00:23:39Nasreen: I’ve snowboarded on small hills,

[00:23:41] Desiree: I can't snowboard. I'm very bad at snowboarding. And I'm terrified on skis to be totally honest.

But I did learn in Keystone they tell you that the green there is blue everywhere else.

And the blue there is black everywhere. It's super hard. I went down that mountain and you're supposed to go sideways like this to go slow because you don't want to go down and die. I was not as good at going sideways the whole time. And I rolled at one point I had to get on the taxi, which is really like a stretcher they pull behind a jet ski to get people down who are too stupid to have been able to, yeah, it's terrifying to me.

I'll do it, but boy, Boy, I will not do it. My kids will fly by me.

[00:24:22]Nasreen: Okay, here's the deal. If we're gonna go on a trip where I ski for the first time, and we all videotape me and make fun of me, we're gonna do it in New England. I'm not starting on some Colorado mountain with altitude sickness,

[00:24:34] Desiree: yeah. Okay.

[00:24:35]Nasreen: Like, we do it near me. I know people at Smugglers Notch,

[00:24:39] Desiree: Yeah. We can convince Stowe, Vermont to host us.

[00:24:42]Nasreen: Heh heh.

[00:24:42] Desiree: sure we're going to make this happen. I'm excited now. Yay. Moe, where were you going to go skiing? You were just saying

[00:24:49] Maureen: I've got friends who have a place in Park City, Utah, and a place in Aspen. So I better go before they stop inviting me.

[00:24:58] Desiree: . My cousin has a place in Tahoe and she keeps saying you and Daly need to come out. You need to. So I kept thinking I might do that this Christmas if I'm not doing 800 other things.

[00:25:08] Maureen: My friend's place in Park City. She goes once a month and there's always something to do. They go biking, they go check out new restaurants.

I love that they really use their place

[00:25:19] Desiree: yeah, yeah,

I think we've given a lot of people a whole lot of options.

[00:25:23]Nasreen: I want to skim over one more topic. A lot of the theme parks- local, larger, Disney, Disneyland, Knott's Berry Farm, the Hershey Park all the Six Flags. I mean, everything. If you can think of a theme park that you have been to, Sesame Place even, all these different places have a lot of events for Halloween and or Christmas that may have limited ticket runs or may take just a little bit of looking into to figure out how to do it optimally so you don't get there and your kid's the only one not in costume and you don't know that if you have this colored wristband it does this.

So definitely looking into some of those if you're looking. Halloween experience. You can usually see how people have done in the past years. There's a lot of scary ones. I know we have Canobie Lake near us and actually, ironically, my family is there today. And sometimes with these late season things at the smaller parks, we bought a pass. They have annual passes because last fall you could buy it and it would be good for the fall and into this year, the full season. And it costs the same as going two and a half times and there were a ton of haunted houses . So my two daughters and my husband got that.

And they've been out multiple times. Look at the annual passes if you're going to do one of these events, it can be a great way to save and still be able to go.

So

[00:26:42] Desiree: many things to do, so many places to see.

[00:26:45] Maureen: Geez, it's going to be quite the last quarter finale of 2024.

[00:26:50] Desiree: But what a great problem to have, right?

We get to do all this stuff, I love it.

I love it.

[00:26:56]Nasreen: definitely. Moral of the story, plan your travel, look into what's around you, explore, , I like to advocate for the menu of items. Make yourself a little list to choose from, and then when you feel stuck later, you have a friend who's feeling stuck, you've already done half the work, here's the 18 things I looked into, that are happening around the area.

It's kind of fun.

[00:27:14] Desiree: Yeah,get on it, Get

[00:27:16]Nasreen: Get on

it, get out there, see some pumpkins, eat some donuts,

[00:27:20] Maureen: have pumpkins and donuts on my list. I'll

[00:27:22]Nasreen: look at some light cider donuts, Mo needs to eat a cider donut, or well a gluten free one. They have them, I promise.

[00:27:28] Maureen: Really?

That's probably not as, probably not as good. I don't know.

[00:27:32]Nasreen: There's some decent ones. I gotta look. I will find you a brand.

I know I used to have cider donuts when I didn't eat gluten and

[00:27:39] Desiree: they have them at Blue Ridge. I've seen them.

[00:27:41] Maureen: Really? Okay.

[00:27:43]Nasreen: Blue Ridge on the list.

[00:27:44] Desiree: Blue Ridge is great. If we ever wanna talk just about Blue Ridge, I would love to, I had to write a 10 article series for Blue Ridge for a friend's website. She hired me to go out there and write 10 articles. No joke.

All 2,000 words. Yeah. I could write a whole Blue Ridge book now.

[00:28:05]Nasreen:: Next up on the list. Okay, well, plan your fall travels. Think about your winter travels. Let us know where you're going. We want to hear it. And until next time. Yay!

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